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乐天陶社教育中心有幸接待了一个由 Mike Moore 和 Jeff Lees 带领的澳大利亚团体，这个团中有一位特殊的成员——Betty Hume。

Betty Hume，出生于1928年2月5日，属龙，今年已经91岁高龄。这是一个关于她的绘画和陶瓷职业生涯的采访。

We at the Pottery Workshop Education Center had the privilege to have to host an Australian group coordinated by Mike Moore and Jeff Lees. This group comprised of a special person, Betty Hume.

Betty Hume was born on February 5, 1928, the year of the dragon. This is an interview about her painting and ceramic career journey till her current age of 91.

Ken：请问你对陶瓷的兴趣是什么时候开始的?

Betty：我在艺术学校上了三年学，我对艺术、绘画、针线活之类的事情都很感兴趣。我做过一些雕塑，但我的主要工作是作为一个风景艺术家，为歌剧和芭蕾画舞台布景。过去我在空闲时间上夜校，和一个叫彼得·拉什福斯的人一起做陶器。

Vase C1991, Tenmoku and Jun glazes, PeterRushforth

他在悉尼很有名。那时候我会每周花上一晚的时间去做陶器，这是我真正对陶瓷感兴趣的开始。因为彼得是个有趣的人，他非常热情，这种热情也感染到他的学生。

Ken：你是陶瓷迷。

Betty：是的，我对陶瓷很着迷。但是我还在工作，所以我不能全身心投入这件事。退休后，我继续学习并且修了三年的陶艺课程，我可以更深入地进行学习，多做一点，也参加各种考试，并设法攻克它们。

Ken：有陶艺考试吗?这让我很惊讶。

Betty：我们有很多口头和书面的工作，我在中国做。其他人学习波斯语和朝鲜语(历史)，但我跟着从中国到韩国再到日本。我们都必须选择一个不同的时期。

Ken:How/when did your interest in ceramics started?

Betty:I went to art school for three years, and I have been interested with anything to do with art, painting, needle work, anything like that. Did do I little bit of sculpture. But my main job was working as a scenic artist, all my life. Painting stage scenery for operas and ballet used to at my free time go to night school and I did do pottery with a man named Peter Rushforth.

Who was quite well known in Sydney. I used to do one night a week to start with. This was when my real ceramics (interest) started because Peter was an interesting man. Very enthusiastic and made his students very enthusiastic

Ken: You got the ceramic bug.

Betty: Yes, I got the ceramic bug. So, but I was still working, so I couldn’t take it up seriously. After retirement, I was able to take up and I did a three year course in ceramics, so I was able to study it deeper and do a little bit more and sit the various exams. And managed and got though them.

Ken: There were exams for ceramics? I am surprised.

Betty: We had a lot of verbal, written work, I did China. Other people did Persian and Korean(history) but I followed from China to Korean to Japan. We all had to pick a different period.

Ken：你比较喜欢雕塑还是实用器皿?

Betty：比起实用的器皿，我更喜欢雕塑。现在，我经常做Goannas，是一种在澳大利亚发现的大蜥蜴，我把它们放在一个罐子上。

Goanna

我喜欢做这样的东西，做动物，听起来有点古怪。

但是随着我年龄的增长，现在我倾向于帮助年轻人，我们有一个叫做Pyraa陶艺协会的组织，Pat和我帮助新认识的人，他们曾经在技术学校为波特夫妇开设过一门课程，但政府认为这是浪费钱，不会在经济上有所帮助，所以现在我们填补了这个空白。

我们找了一些从未做过陶器的人来帮助他们进行制作，由于对釉料一无所知，所以Pat和我会帮助大家去制作釉料。

我们开设了两门课程，一门是如何将釉料以100克的量混合并进行测试，现在他们进入了一个阶段，可以进行更多的测试，还可以给自己的罐子上釉。我们只有四个电窑，所以可以保持一个良好的营业额，我们既做陶器也做炻器，每种粘土都有专门的架子。

驻场期间的作品成果

Ken：那炻器和陶泥的混合 .......

Betty：确实会有担心，对于初学者来说，只能用炻器泥，不会让他们用陶土，因为它会融化。我们有一个样品来说明如果陶土进入炻器烧制会发生什么。我个人有一个煤气炉和一个轮子，会在家做很多工作，我丈夫去世前，他曾帮我很大的忙，现在我需要同时打理他留下的花园，这段时间我并没有太多时间做陶瓷。

Ken:Do you prefer sculptural or Functional ware?

Betty: I prefer sculptural to functional ware.

At the moment, I often do Goannas, they are big lizards that are found around Australia and I fit them on a pot, put a big lizard on it.

I like making things like that, making animals, a bit quirky. But as I got older, tend to help younger people now, we have a society call Pyraa Pottery Society. Pat and I help new people because they used to run a course at the tech school for potters. The government decided it was a waste of money and wont help financially, so now we fill in that space. We get people who have never done pottery and come along to help them and start them off. Pat and I are helping them with glazes as they know nothing about glazes.

We run two courses, one was how to mix your glazes in 100g batches and do testers, and now they get to a stage where they can go a little bit more. They can glaze their own pots. We only have four electric kilns, so we can keep a healthy turnover. We do stoneware as well as earthenware, we have specific racks for each kinds of clay.

Ken: That’s when the clays starts mixing

Betty: We do have worries, but for beginners they can only use stoneware clay. We won’t let them use earthenware clays because it melts. We have a demonstration piece of what happens if earthenware clay gets into a stoneware firing. I personally have a gas kiln and a wheel. I do a lot of work at home. Used to do lots more, but my husband passed away and he was a great help. And now I have to do his garden at the same time. I do not have much time these days to do pottery.

Ken：是什么让你到了这个年纪还依旧坚持?

Betty：我很喜欢教课，喜欢看到学生有一些成果和取得成果的过程。因为我是风景艺术系的系主任，所以我总是要教人们如何画风景。期间，也做过很多道具，那是雕塑的组成部分，还会做泥塑版：包括在道具部，会做一些真实的东西，我或我的助手会负责去粉刷它。

“我是一个非常非常幸运的人，

我一直在做一份我一生都热爱的工作。

现在我正在做我乐在其中的事情。

我喜欢做陶瓷，喜欢看到成果。”

What drives you even at this age?

Betty: I do enjoy teaching. I love seeing results of having students and seeing the result of how they come. I always had to teach people because I was the head of the scenic art department, how to paint scenery. Did a lot of props, that was the sculptural component. I would do the clay version, in the prop department, they will make the actual thing, I or my assistant will paint it.

I am a very very lucky person. I have always done a job that I love all my life. Now I am doing a hobby that I love.

I enjoy making pots and love seeing the results.

向这位学到老的超级学霸致敬，

愿我们也能在陶瓷的乐园中一直自在生长。

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